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To buy and sell bitcoin using US Postal Money orders, you will need to [[Create_a_payment_account|set up a corresponding payment account]] in Bisq.
 
To buy and sell bitcoin using US Postal Money orders, you will need to [[Create_a_payment_account|set up a corresponding payment account]] in Bisq.
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{{Admonition_Note|USPMO accounts follow account aging, meaning that [[Account_limits#Account_aging|trading limits increase over time]]. For the first 30 days, all trades must be 0.0625 BTC or less (there is no limit to the number of trades you can do). After 60 days, the per-trade limit increases to 0.25 BTC.
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Consider creating a USPMO payment account in Bisq as soon as possible, so higher limits are available to you when you want them.}}
  
 
Things to keep in mind:
 
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Again, please note that incorrect information in Bisq payment accounts is generally against Bisq trade protocol. Buying bitcoin with USPMO is a rare exception.
 
Again, please note that incorrect information in Bisq payment accounts is generally against Bisq trade protocol. Buying bitcoin with USPMO is a rare exception.
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= Buying the money order =
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It is highly recommended to use cash to buy the USPMO. Using any other electronic form of payment adds a form of tracking to the transaction, which can defeat the purpose of using the USPMO in the first place.
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If you're not buying more than $3,000 of money orders in a single day, the [https://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/509.htm#ep1124357 USPS does not require photo ID]. If asked for ID, kindly remind your cashier that ID isn't required (perhaps you left it at home?).
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Also consider:
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* asking for a printed receipt, in case of a dispute on Bisq
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* wearing sunglasses and/or a mask
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* placing the USPMO out of sight upon receiving it, and filling it out elsewhere (away from cameras)
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= Sending a money order in the mail =
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[[File:Uspsmo-4.png|400px|thumb|right|Figure 1. Extra paper for extra privacy in the envelope.]]
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Address the envelope as appropriate.
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When putting the money order in the envelope, consider adding a blank sheet of paper for an additional layer of privacy. Fold a blank sheet of paper in half twice (to form a “V” shape). Place the folded sheet in the envelope with the opening facing up. In between the “V” opening, place the USPMO (see Figure 1). This extra layer of paper makes it harder to see the envelope's contents from the outside.
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After dropping your money order in the mail, don't forget to mark your payment as sent in Bisq!
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= Redeeming a money order =
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== For cash ==
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In order to redeem a money order for cash, you'll need to present photo identification that matches the name on the USPMO. Keep in mind that the cash you can receive is limited to the amount of cash the cashier has in their drawer—to receive larger quantities of cash, you may need to go to different locations or go back at different times.
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== For new USPMOs ==
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Another option is to redeem the USPMO you receive for another USPMO. Some cashiers will claim this isn't possible, but it is. Gently call a manager or colleague to help in case your cashier doesn't cooperate.
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Why redeem a USPMO for another USPMO? Because a USPMO is almost as good as cash—you can mail USPMO to billers to pay bills (without banks!), for example.

Revision as of 17:28, 17 July 2020

US Postal Money Orders (USPMO) are one of the most private payment methods on Bisq, currently only available for use on Bisq within the United States.

This article covers tips and tricks on using this payment method for buying and selling bitcoin on Bisq.

Setting up a payment account in Bisq

To buy and sell bitcoin using US Postal Money orders, you will need to set up a corresponding payment account in Bisq.

Note
USPMO accounts follow account aging, meaning that trading limits increase over time. For the first 30 days, all trades must be 0.0625 BTC or less (there is no limit to the number of trades you can do). After 60 days, the per-trade limit increases to 0.25 BTC.

Consider creating a USPMO payment account in Bisq as soon as possible, so higher limits are available to you when you want them.

Things to keep in mind:

  • It is okay to use a fake name and address in a USPMO account on Bisq only if using the account will be used to buy bitcoin. This is because a USPMO is a bearer instrument—as long as the money order itself is valid, it doesn't matter who sent it or what the sender's address is.
    • Consider using an online name generator (search "random name generator" on your favorite search engine) for a more bias-free suggestion for the sender's name.
    • For the sender's address, you may want to be more careful, because if your envelope is returned, you'll want to be able to retrieve it.
      • Option 1 - Use an actual fake address (search internet for "random address generator"). If your envelope is returned for any reason, you'll probably lose it for good.
      • Option 2 - Use another address: that of a neighbor, a friend, or a nearby building (e.g., apartment leasing office, local mom-and-pop shop, etc). This way, you'll have a higher chance of retrieving a returned envelope, but you'll reveal a bit of information about your location.
  • If selling, name and address must be correct (address must be correct in order to receive the envelope, and name must match photo ID to cash it).
  • To maximize privacy, consider setting up 2 separate payment accounts: one with fake information for buying bitcoin and one with real information for selling bitcoin.

Again, please note that incorrect information in Bisq payment accounts is generally against Bisq trade protocol. Buying bitcoin with USPMO is a rare exception.

Buying the money order

It is highly recommended to use cash to buy the USPMO. Using any other electronic form of payment adds a form of tracking to the transaction, which can defeat the purpose of using the USPMO in the first place.

If you're not buying more than $3,000 of money orders in a single day, the USPS does not require photo ID. If asked for ID, kindly remind your cashier that ID isn't required (perhaps you left it at home?).

Also consider:

  • asking for a printed receipt, in case of a dispute on Bisq
  • wearing sunglasses and/or a mask
  • placing the USPMO out of sight upon receiving it, and filling it out elsewhere (away from cameras)

Sending a money order in the mail

Figure 1. Extra paper for extra privacy in the envelope.

Address the envelope as appropriate.

When putting the money order in the envelope, consider adding a blank sheet of paper for an additional layer of privacy. Fold a blank sheet of paper in half twice (to form a “V” shape). Place the folded sheet in the envelope with the opening facing up. In between the “V” opening, place the USPMO (see Figure 1). This extra layer of paper makes it harder to see the envelope's contents from the outside.

After dropping your money order in the mail, don't forget to mark your payment as sent in Bisq!

Redeeming a money order

For cash

In order to redeem a money order for cash, you'll need to present photo identification that matches the name on the USPMO. Keep in mind that the cash you can receive is limited to the amount of cash the cashier has in their drawer—to receive larger quantities of cash, you may need to go to different locations or go back at different times.

For new USPMOs

Another option is to redeem the USPMO you receive for another USPMO. Some cashiers will claim this isn't possible, but it is. Gently call a manager or colleague to help in case your cashier doesn't cooperate.

Why redeem a USPMO for another USPMO? Because a USPMO is almost as good as cash—you can mail USPMO to billers to pay bills (without banks!), for example.