Burning Men
Overview
Burning Men is the name given to Bisq contributors who choose to burn BSQ in order to receive bitcoin in the form of trade fees and Delayed Payout Transactions. The reason for the proposal was to increase Bisq's decentralization by replacing what was previously a sole 'burning man' (with a single point of failure and a requirement of trust) with multiple burning men without the need for trust.
Burning Men burn BSQ upfront, to receive a share of receiving trading fees and Delayed Payout Transactions.
Contents
Basics
Who can be a burning man?
Any Bisq contributor who has received compensation for their contributions within the last 24 cycles (approximately 2 years) can be be a Burning Man, as well as anyone who contributed prior to the DAO being launched, and received a payout from the DAO genesis transaction.
Why do some contributors choose to be burning men?
Burningmen receive BTC as an incentive, but this in turn also helps the DAO by increasing BSQ price and reducing BSQ stock.
Burning Men Protocol goals
The main goal is to decentralize the burning man role. A secondary goal is to create better incentives for contributors to work on Bisq.
Burning Men Protocol UI
All the information about the current and past state of the burning men protocol can be found in the Bisq application: DAO > Proof of Burn > Burning Men
Risks of burning
When burning BSQ, its value is immediately lost for the chance to receive a percentage of the BTC trade fees and delayed payout transactions. The risk comes from the amount of future trade fees and delayed payout transactions being unknown, which means no guarantee of future payments. Things that could negatively effect the bitcoin payments could be any of the following:
Decrease in trade volume
If the trade volume on Bisq decreases, BTC payouts will decrease proportionally. Trade volume can be affected by things such as market cycles, high BTC transaction fees, competition from other services, etc.
Change to trade protocol
If there was to be a change to how the trade protocol works, this could result in a reduction or cessation of payouts to burning men. For example changes to the dispute process, trade fee model, trade limits, or multi-sig protocol could all result in less payouts going to the burning men.
Uncertainty on future BSQ/BTC price
When burning, a contributor is choosing to burn one asset, BSQ, to receive the chance to be paid in another, BTC. The price of BSQ and BTC will change over this period, and this variable creates an additional factor some contributors may wish to consider.
Unknown amount of future burns by other contributors
As a contributors receiver share is based both on what they burn and what others have burnt, it is not possible to predict their receiver share over time. Generally, the less competition there is, the more profitable it will be, and the more competition there is, the less profitable it will be.
Benefits of burning
Burning can be of benefit to both the DAO and the individual burning men.
Burning is a benefit to the DAO
Burning BSQ is a benefit for the DAO. When contributors burn their BSQ they reduce the BSQ supply by the burnt amount. This benefits all BSQ holders (the DAO). BSQ holders do not benefit directly from trade fees or delayed payout transaction payouts. Instead they benefit from BSQ burnt in trade fees from traders and the BSQ burnt by contributors performing the role of Burning Men.
Burning BSQ can be profitable for the individual contributor
Since the launch of the burning men protocol more bitcoin has been distributed to the burning men than the bitcoin equivalent amount of BSQ that has been burnt. This means historically burning BSQ has been profitable for most contributors choosing to be Burning Men.
I am a Bisq contributor should I become a burning man?
Becoming a burning man is entirely optional. It is up to each contributor to weigh up the pros and cons of burning and for them to decide what is best for them.
It is easy to try out burning some BSQ and then decide if you want to burn more or not. Burning BSQ generally suits contributors that are happy to push their remuneration into the future with the hope of gaining more value for their BSQ by burning it than by either holding it or selling it upon receipt.
Questions that might be useful for contributors to ask themselves are:
- Am I looking to increase the amount of BSQ I have?
- Am I looking to increase the amount of bitcoin I have?
- Would I prefer to be paid in bitcoin or BSQ?
- Is it better for me to trade BSQ for bitcoin or to burn BSQ to hopefully receive more bitcoin in the future than I would get for trading it now?
I am a burning man should I buy BSQ to burn?
Once someone becomes a burning man they might at some point consider buying BSQ to burn. This helps the DAO, and potentially is profitable for the contributor but it does require additional speculation on some of the factors discussed above. It is mentioned here as an option for someone already burning to consider.
How to become a burning man
Current Contributors
If a contributor wants to be a burning man they should choose a bitcoin address to receive the funds to. Ideally an external wallet like, electrum or sparrow. Once they have chosen there address they should follow the instructions posted here.
The chosen bitcoin address can then be provided in their next compensation request. This is provided in the 'burningman receiver address (optional)' field.
Once their compensation request has been approved their chosen bitcoin address will also be used for any burning men payouts they receive up until they ever change it in a subsequent approved compensation request.
To burn BSQ for the BSQ burning man role the current contributor will see their assigned name 'contributor_name' in the Burning Men Protocol UI (DAO > Proof of Burn > Burning Men). They can then choose to burn an amount of BSQ and pressing burn.
Past Contributors
If a contributor wants to be a burning man they should open the Bisq application that has also been used to make a recent compensation request (at least in the last 2 years). They will see their assigned name 'contributor_name' in the Burning Men Protocol UI (DAO > Proof of Burn > Burning Men). They can then choose to burn an amount of BSQ and pressing burn.
Receivers of the genesis distribution
If a contributor has funds from the genesis output(s) in their Bisq wallet they will see their assigned name 'Bisq co founder XX' in the Burning Men Protocol UI (DAO > Proof of Burn > Burning Men).
They should then choose a bitcoin address to receive the funds to. Ideally an external wallet like, electrum or sparrow. Once they have chosen there address they should follow the instructions posted here.
Terminology
The burningmen section contains a number of terms that is it helpful for someone interested in the protocol to understand.
The burningmen section can be found in the Bisq application DAO > Proof of Burn > Burningmen
Contributor name
Pretty obvious, but worth noting that founder contributors are given an extra level of pseudonymity by being referred to as 'Bisq co founder XX'.
Burn target
You can click the ? to get more info. I take these numbers with a pinch of salt. Take these numbers as broad estimates. Do not make decisions based on what to burn on these numbers alone.
This is an important number. It gives you the following information:
- The percentage chance you have of receiving a bitcoin trade fee. - The percentage amount of any delayed payout transaction you will receive.
The receiver share percentage is updated every block. Your receiver share changes based on who burns BSQ AND the decay over time of the burns made by the burning men.
The maximum a contributors receiver share can be is 11%. This is to protect the DAO from an attack from a malicious contributor that wants to self trade and send their trades to arbitration. Limiting the receiver share to 11% mitigates this attack.
The issuance share is basically the amount of BSQ compensation each contributor has received over the last 24 cycles. More weight is given to compensation received recently. BSQ compensation received decays linearly over 24 cycles.
The issuance share also has a bearing to what someone's maximum receiver share can be. A contributor can get a receiver share of up to 10 times their issuance share amount, up to a maximum of 11%.
Burned amount
This is the total amount of BSQ burned by contributor over time.
Decayed burn amount
This is the total amount of BSQ burned by the contributor when taking into account the decay their burns have over time. Each time you burn it decays linearly to zero over 12 cycles. Due to this decay the decayed burn reduces changes each block. The decayed burn amount is essentially represented in percentage terms by the 'issuance share' value.
Issued amount
This is the total amount of BSQ issued to a contributor over time.
Decayed issued amount
This is the total amount of BSQ issued to a contributor when taking into account the decay over time. Each compensation request decays linearly to zero over 24 cycles. The decayed issued amount is essentially represented in percentage terms by the 'receiver share' value.
Balance for DAO
This section gives an overview of all the BSQ burning and bitcoin that has taken place.
Total amount of burned BSQ
This is the all time amount of BSQ that has been burnt by all contributors acting as burning men.
Total amount of distributed BTC/BSQ
This is the all time amount of bitcoin that has been distributed to all contributors acting as burning men. For ease of comparison this figure is also given as a BSQ amount.
Generally if the amount of BSQ being distributed is greater than the amount being burnt then the burning men are in profit from their activities.
Export to CSV
If someone wants to see the results by month rather than all time then they can choose to export to csv to get more granular data.